If a mans Nessus conjuncts, your Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars or North Node, he will abuse you, in my opinion. DRACO CHARTS (DRACO-NATAL/ DRACO-SYNASTRY) Originally posted by kellyaroman What is a draco chart in astrology ? Because of where my Moon is at 2 56 Scorpio conjunct Pluto at 4 36 Scorpio in the 8th house the men around my age (Im 35);tend to have their Pluto conjunct my Moon/Pluto In my current relationship my boyfriend has Mars/Pluto conjunct my Moon/Pluto. I can relate to everything Ive read from you. orb). I am having a hard time following your questions, Julia. The issue is that me disagreeing with you being fatalistic (because what you say is not what always happens, not even 60% of the time because I have nessus/dejanira aspects with most people that are close to me, and I have never been abused or attacked in any of those relationships) does not mean that Im not accepting the truth. Conjunctions, oppositions, and trines are best. They may not be able to see what you are up to and you could use this for your gain. To put it plainly, if you have a dominant Nessus, you will be an abuser. Any comments will help. Which probably held it together for SO long. It was a relationship based on dates and romance instead of the realities of life. Maybe, the good aspects just out weight this one. Lilith cops the craziest projections - that she could cause miscarriages or tried to wreck men's marriages via 'erotic nightmares' and so on. . lol. Or can my Sun hurt the person. And posting my charf sounds like fun, I just might . How fortunate we are to have such a wonderful body of info to help us! 3. I would have to consider the scenarios more. I am the nessus person and I admit to having some devious tendencies towards anyone with neptune in that position. It makes my day , What conjuncts the DSC, we disown and find in the partner. or you consider just the closer orbit? I know this is an article for synastry, but Im a little worried about my natal chart after reading about Nessus and Dejanira. The ex that abused me while I was pregnant had his Nessus conjunct my MC. Dejanira trines my Ascendant. I am Sag with rising capricorn and he is Capricorn w/rising Sag. Double whammy of Mars-Uranus in our synastry chart. Your passions are overwhelming, spontaneous, and you develop your attractions without even thinking about it. No point living in fear for aspects that may not play out. It makes sense when you consider how deeply Lilith desires to eat/destroy her loves mythologically. In my studies and usage of them, they play out to be the abuser and the victim. The chart shows the TRUTH. Synastry: Sun square Pluto, sun conjunct Amor, sun conjunct psyche, Pluto conjunct moon, Venus square Pluto, (they have Venus square Pluto)natal also, mars sextile Venus, Mars conjunct Sappho and trine Uranus (they have mars square Uranus natal mars) tine Jupiter, Venus conjunct Neptune and sun conjunct Venus and Eros square Pluto, Eros conjunct kaali, Venus conjunct kaali all opposite Nessus!! The planets, asteroids, and stars do not cause only one particular outcome. Thanks for your help Amiann. My venus is conjunct someone's eros right now. All this is square my Moon. As I see more pieces, I think my awareness shifts, and I do feel like that makes a difference. Posts: 376From: Western Massachusetts, USRegistered: May 2009. As you know, or can find from my directory, Eros and Psyche are my favorite asteroids. I think there are very few people who actually manage to overcome childhood abuse, and not without a long painful journey and negative experiences. To me, you may really struggle with falling into the victim role and would have to keep pulling yourself up over and over until you get real traction which could take some time, oh im sorry. And Moon conjunct Lilith EXACT Moon conjunct Destinn EXACT Venus square Mars EXACT I have some extreme aspects and I shudder to think how they would be expressed had I not had saturn at the top of my chart who keeps things in check via a grand trine involving some big bad planets. His dejanira is in opposition to his vertex. Next: Synastry Books Compared . His Dejanira is in 25 Scorpio, conjunct my Part of Fortune in 27 Scorpio, opposite my Moon in 29 Taurus and Mars and Jupiter, in 0 Gemini. You could post it in my Forum if you would like, Eva. Thanks SO much for your kind words. How do we honor Lilith in our lives? "In Greek art Eros was depicted as a winged youth, slight but beautiful, often with eyes covered to symbolize the blindness of love. Not good, my Friend. Ive never seen the Descendant explained so clearly or succinctly before. Your words mean a lot to me! Btw he just got married to a girl whose moon is conjunct with his nessus+sun+true node AND also, her dejanira is conjunct with his moon !!! I need to put it altogether after several hours of study to answer well. Lilith Synastry Sun and Lilith conjunct in the synastry chart When Sun person's Sun and Lilith person's Lilith combine, each person awakens the deep desire for individuality and creativity in each other. Yes, this is all very true but the charts exist outside of time, too. I was shocked to see it in this couples charts. It is sad! Try to post the charts so see a visual! I have my nessus conjunct with my true node. Fortuna Conjunct the Vertex. I use the term female, but it would be the same for either sex. This aspect almost certainly speaks to karma from a past life marriage. Thanks :), I dont want people to get the wrong idea and then get scared over a small aspect. Thank you Ariel! Eros wants intense encounters that lead to lasting transformation. What significance would you place on someones Juno conjunct my vertex, south node as well as very-widely conjunct my sun (same sign). I am so thankful to have such a resource like this for guidance. I dont think you can draw the concrete conclusion you did from these aspects. Ascendant opposite ascendant (1st house on the 7th house overlay). The Basic House Rulers23 Simple Steps for Beginners. You are not an astrology god that holds the key to the entire truth. in the 12th house, you might be safe in assuming that there was a marriage or long-term relationship in a past life. It "wakes up those areas inside of us and causes us to express them sexually, free from the restrictions of reality. Things to look for in synastry: Here we focus on indications of sexual attraction using Astrology as our tool. Is this a synastry, Ariel? I wasnt abused as a child in any way. The lilith person knows exactly how they effect the ic and can really play with them over time. Eros-Psyche: Eros and Psyche are natural mates. Eros is a spicy little asteroid who generates excitement in relationship astrology. However, Moon/Pluto in conjunction does not have to turn bad. We all have Liliths plutonic quality in us, the unconscious energy that brings up harsh boundaries between life and death, ecstasy and suffering, passion and revulsion, enslavement and freedom. Ami is an insightful astrology. A Lilith conjunct Mars synastry creates an intense hot affair that can lead to abuse of power and hostility, and this couple must learn to take care of each other before passion consumes their lives. I am new on this and finding all this information was revealing, so now I will stick to questions about my dejanira and nesuus. Further, there is such a thing such as free will. It is opinion, not truth. 4. I have my dejanira conjuct by one degree with my AC line. The issue is telling people that are in healthy relationships or people that are around a couple in a healthy relationship, that those aspects will certainly play out no matter what. Powerful, you say? I do charts for the people who want them. And thank you for this article, I should have said that before. Groom conjunct the Vertex. To gather more about the flavor of the relationship, look to the actual aspect (is it favorable or difficult?) Knowing more. There`s also lot of growth and sweetness and nothing that amounts to abuse. If you want to ask about 2 aspects, I will try to answer but an answer on the whole relationship needs an entire chart reading. This only works with a synastry chart, and (as always) is simply my own opinion! my mars is there too though, trining his Scorpio pluto 0.25 we have physical heat but plenty of fighting. I am honored to have you as a valued member of my website family , Ivs, why dont you come put your chart in my Personal Readings Forum. Yes, that is a good way to put it. I am sorry. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a, Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 Please, keep giving your opinion. If someone does not want to accept the truth, that is their choice, but I, personally, will not do their chart. Sun sextile/trine/conjunct Moon is often found in marriage synastry charts. Dejanira is the victim asteroid. Eros Conjunct the Midheaven: This synastry aspect will be quite powerful for both parties since it will impact the way that the world views them. I just found out my abusers Moon is 1 degree conjunct my Dejanira. Once awakened, no matter how untamed the experience becomes, we are given a rare opportunity to integrate, redeem and restore Eros and Lilith to a place of honor through shared, transcendental sexual activity. I always question the role of house overlays and given this topic the 8th house comes to mind. I hope I can do this when I tell you about my own life. Would you liken moon/pluto dynamics to an 8th house moon overlay? His ascendant is at 24 Virgo and has 0 Virgo in his 12th house. Yes, it would. Copyright [the-year] [site-link] | This website is intended for entertainment purposes only. We have our arguments and I sometimes feel put down by him (and, to be fair, he feels the same way about me) and sometimes my self-esteem suffers. It is disrespect to Astrology which I love and respect. Hi, anyone can tell me more about a double whammy Pluto-Venus? The Fortuna would, likely, bring good fortune to the vertex person, likely in the arena of money. under what theme of the forum? Thank you Ivs. The conjunction is excact. It is real to be neutral. Hi Amiann The fear can totally destroy someone over something that they read as if its fact. Yes, these asteroids have to be in a very close conjunction with other planets ( or a very close square) to be dangerous. Thank you, Kay <3 I dont believe in past lives, Lo. Partners switch roles? Saturn draws the couple together due to karma, but Juno and South Node aspects offer more of a choice. And my dejanira conjunct his Venus. Do you think I need to worry about the Nessus/BML conjunction or about abusing the poor wounded birds I keep looking for? Most important to me is that you find Jesus. His abuse asteroid on her midheaven would be her reputation and career, right? There is precious little practical info out there on asteroids. Eros and Venus in a synastry chart! I dont even have tattoos or my ears pierced. What I wanted to know first was what past lives we had together. Dark sexual relationship synastry top 5 | Signing. I was wondering.. Are Sun/Mars (double whammy) and Venus/Mars (double whammy) dark aspects in synastry? In Roman mythology, Eros was known as Cupid. That is why I dont mince words. Also, our vertexes are separated only by 7 degrees. Nonetheless, your interpretation of dejanira and nessus is intriguing. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. Synastry When a person's natal moon forms a conjunction with someone's Eros, or vice versa, this can be a very sexualbut very intenserelationship. Relationships that provoke her and Eros, although excruciatingly potent at times, serve as a meeting place for both divine figures. This was likely a more romantic or sexual relationship instead of something that sustained itself day to day. I would need to see more, Jenn! His touch is all at once sexual, creative and spiritual. Thank you, Amiann. Thanks for the push in this direction, my Friend. ? These aspects or connections have a "mean't to be" feel to them, it's a potent place to look at in synastry. would you please shed some light as you see fit? Asteroids and aspects do not control people. Deja conj the DSC may make you look for wounded bird types. I know how important moon moon aspects are to you, Venus pluto aspects I am not mad, I am correcting you for instilling fear in people with your claim to truth. What are your thoughts? What does that mean? Still, even without the conjunction, I have Nessus in the 1st house, which would make me abusive, according to these theories, and I dont fit. Moon oppose Pluto and Moon square Pluto could tend to be dark because they are powerful and not with a harmonious flow. As long as we kept connecting the way we had been sexually, I was willing to "fight" for what I thought we had and felt I could withstand anything. This vertex conjunction shows up again like in my previous relationship. It's been suggested that an understanding of someone's natal Eros gives you the keys to unlock their erotic desires. Eros conjunction sun and lucky point.. and mercury, uranus, pluto and venus in house seven, libra. Yeah, the They may not be able to see what you are up and you could use this for your gain fits perfectly. (both in Capricorn) It is a true soul mate aspect, to me. It wasn't until he began to withhold sex from me that I finally crumbled. Ami, hello. It may seem challenging but we share many conjunctions and trines/sextiles. Welcome, Ariel and great questions. Ceres person appreciates this, as they typically focus more on caregiving than on their own inner desires. If I had read this as a 14-16 year old, I wouldve been waiting everyday for my mother to start emotionally, mentally, or physically abusing me, and it would have put me in a constant state of fear because I didnt know much about astrology or how complex and fluid it is. His nessus is in conjunction with his true node in geminis (in opposition to my uranus and my vesta). BUT my dejanira is conjunct with his sun by one degree and my dejanira is also in the same degree as my AC What does that mean? This is a difficult aspect, but the couple often meets in this life to try and heal the wound. You are welcome to your opinion but I stand on what I wrote. What about my nessus conjunct his descendant? My Fortuna conjuncts precisely his Dejanira and Moon. Welcome, Britt. You interpret things based off of your own view. It seems like the man of your childhood dreams walked out of the ether into your life like the larger than life heroes on the movie screens. If you have a dominant Dejanira, you will be a victim. ami, what would nessus trine dejanira in synastry indicate. This would be once in a lifetime kind of intense and tender. You do not have to do their chart. There is no superficial way to get to know Lilith through the experience of the erotic. I was sexually abused in my home by a family member. If you see any intense conjunctions between the Sun, the Moon, Juno, the South Node, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Lilith, etc. . We are dealing with very primal emotions here and we all know what primal emotions and passions can do if a person is not careful. Now, we come to things that could really make the relationship dark. The opposition would be the same but not as locked in or as intense. About Nessus/BML, I would watch it. When the son grows up, he will likely be the abuser,too. Children create their future adult personalities by learning from the adults around them and their interactions, so it makes sense, sadly. Also, how does moon conjunct pluto in synastry differ to moon conjunct pluto in composite. The 12th house is all about past life astrology, so the planets can always be applied to past lives as well as the current life.