God divorced Israel but Not judah..Jesus is the Lion of the tribe of WHAT?? All people need to do is humbly ask for one. Youre perfect for them because they dont want people challenging their belief system. Only God decides who goes to heaven and who doesnt. If you believe that women are inferior to men and are to be submissive to their husbands, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 32. What your pastor told you is extremely dangerous and silly. Heartland Baptist Bible College An individual independent church might come up with their own definition of faith, they might subscribe to a preexisting one, or they might not use any. If that is the case, you might as well go out and live like hell, because you are not interested in what God says anyway. We believe the King James Bible to be inerrant. Its the inspired word of God. We had been boyfriend and girlfriend for 5 years and a baby that was 10 months old. Our only Head is the Lord Jesus Christ and our only headquarters is heaven. This is very good. "[3], The New IFB was formed by Anderson and other Baptist pastors in 2017 in an attempt to revive what they perceived older independent Baptist churches once represented. lm 8:4-9; Colossians 3:9-11). Since God looks at Jesus to forgive Ill look at Jesus also to forgive. Well the whole point of being an independent church is that there is no one that you are responsible to. I think its easy to look at the pastor as an authority figure, someone who holds some position above you, but most of them just want that connection with you, they care, they love you, they just want whats best for you. Matthew 6:14-15 Now, I am a 25 year old women with 3 children a 4, 2, and 7 month old and my Husband is 26. The Bible is our sole and final authority for faith and practice. [7], The New IFB currently lists 30 affiliated congregations on their website. I want no part of it except to expose it for what it is cultish. 19:13-15. I also KNOW the areas that Hes not pleased with as I choose to hold on to that which the Bible clearly states as sin. If you think that mental health issues (depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, etc.) It made me think of this, Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled; Its a shame, but whattayagonnado? If you believe that you can tell who the good Christians are and who the bad Christians are by looking at the fruit in their lives, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 51. It was fun to read down through comments and feel a little gratified that not everyone was chuckling to themselves againwhy?? Baptist You feel forced to go door to door preaching No general opinion on this since door to door preaching within the IFB is very similar to that of the Jehovahs Witnesses though we should share the gospel to others, especially to those who dont have Christ in their lives. Ask questions if you need to and Ill be happy to explain more. We even have TWO. Independent Fundamental Baptist or Bible-Believing Baptist) are a particularly cranky fundamentalist branch of unaffiliated We as a couple decided to do things biblical. My mother doesnt wear fancy earrings. The Bible is inspired and preserved by God and carries His absolute authority. Church membership is a necessary privilege for believers who follow Christ. Being a IFB preacher, I confess a lot of truth here. We affirm without apology the doctrines frequently identified as the Fundamentals of the Faith, which include the deity, virgin birth, sinless life, substitutionary death, bodily resurrection, and imminent return of Jesus Christ. They bought your loyalty. Quite the contrary, I was searching for something else when I clicked on this link, so I didnt then and dont now come looking to argue. If your not getting a lot out of your bible read I would recommend a switch to Kjv and to define any word you dont know Slow down reading and meditate on what your reading dont read as a duty each day but as a searching for fellowship each day. Im not responsible for how its perceived. He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. anything that even remotely appears to be worldly means that you arent being separate, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 44. We believe in the autonomy of the local church free of any external authority or control. I do agree that its not sinful about renting movies or watching them on TV. They will trample the pearls, then turn and attack you. 25 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. I found this site while checking for deceptions in different denominations, starting with Mormons. And that boy who has grown up in Sunday School (because I brought him in my car every week) is now in 6th grade and has experienced the concept of unconditional love and promises that are kept things which would otherwise have been foreign. We dont believe if you get rid of all the sin in your life youll be a completely healthy person. (John 3:36; Romans 14:4-12;2 Corinthians 4:2; Titus 1:9), Local church membership is restricted to individuals who give a believable testimony of personal faith in Christ and have publicly identified with Him in believer's baptism. I assure you that Im living exactly how God wants me to be living and Im doing it outside of the IFB (yes it can be done LOL). Its insidious and extremely toxic. Those who judge people like that WILL BE judged the same way, PERIOD. There are some things that the IFB does very well, such as fellowship. Doctrinal Statement - independentbaptist.church Please read this article for more information: https://baptistdeception.com/reasons-for-not-accepting-the-kjv-as-gods-preserved-word-a-response-to-pastor-james-melton/, I hope that you left your church in good terms and that they knew how you felt and whoever was wrong to be revived and allow the precense [sic] of God to bring the individual to the norm in other words what christian ought to be not what men want to be.. [11] Also in June 2019, Grayson Fritts, pastor at New IFB-affiliated All Scripture Baptist Church and a former detective for the Knox County, Tennessee, Sheriff's Office, delivered a sermon calling for the execution of gays.[12]. around the world wherever our Lord directs. Good point Steve! God speaks to individuals through His Word and His Spirit. 40. Believe it or not I can find time to pray while at the same time not sending my loved ones to an abusive church. Its pure manipulation. (2 Timothy 2:15), We believe the first day of the week is the Lords Day. The lost in the world watch us Christians closer than we know. I believe the Bible, and if you do not believe the Bible and hate what the Bible teaches, it is because your opinion is more important to you, than what the Bible says, and if that be so, then there is really no reason for you to go to church in the first place. They all work together. Jack hyles was an adulterous heretic. I dont deserve Gods forgiveness or even my husbands forgiveness. If you believe that God cant use a divorced man and pull out your Scofield Bible to show why, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 39. If your pastor begins his sermon by reading one verse than yells and pounds the pulpit for the next 30 minutes, my current pastor, at Balsam Street Christian Church, doesnt do any of the two as he doesnt use the pulpit to preach his sermons anyways. Get our Question of the Week delivered right to your inbox! I was taught that I needed to let God change him. The Duggar family, so much in the news lately, are Independent Fundamental Baptists (IFB), a loosely affiliated, singularly cultish denomination of The Bible talks about a CHEERFUL GIVER. If a person gets right with God, then they will usually give, not because they have to, rather because they want to give. WebActs 15:36,41; 16:5; I Corinthians 16:1; Galatians 1:1-3; Revelation 1:4, 10, 11. Tithing is also commanded in the bible and we are to give because he loves us and give with a joyful heart. Faith Bible Baptist Church's Bible Study Internet Links Baptists: 10 Important Things to Know About The Church Beliefs If you believe that women are inferior to men and are to be submissive to their husbands, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. 11 The greatest among you must be a servant. Members come into the church personally, individually, and freely. Preachers should not put their congregation under constraint. The Lord is doing His work in ths world through local churches. If the people in your church are truly humble, forgive easily, and believe that everyone is worthy of grace, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. (Mat 22:37-40) Can you honestly say that this is of God. Tattoos are the marks of the Devil I really dont know if they are marks of the devil but I do agree that tattoos are sinful even if its against the Old Testament. We believe that the souls of the redeemed are, at death, absent from the body and present with the Lord, where in conscious bliss they await the first resurrection, when spirit, soul, and body are reunited to be glorified forever with the Lord (Luke 23:43; Revelation 20:4-6; II Corinthians 5:8; Philippians 1:23, 3:21; I Thessalonians 4:16-17). Sermon Outlines The Bible-Believing Fundamentalist 27. I dont think it applies to all IFB churches, the ones I grew up in didnt do some of these, but the rest definitely apply. You should have, instead of adding a dozen or so of your comments, said If you believe everything in the Bible, you might be an Independent Baptist. Please correct me if Im wrong, but arent we supposed to follow the teachings of the Bible, such as tithing? For you cross land and sea to make one convert, and then you turn that person into twice the child of hell you yourselves are! Im sad to here that fellow Christians cant get along, and I will start praying for all Churchs to be revived. Back then, you had to wear your Sunday best. If you believe that secular psychology is worldly/sinful, but dont think that other areas of medicine are OK, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 45. Jack Hyles came to our church and you would have thought Jesus himself was preaching! If you believe that perfection is something to strive for and/or attain this side of heaven,you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. We wanted Gods blessing of Mariage. 29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: 30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. Even when the family goes on vacation, we go to church. People that oppose things is due to beliefs, so I believe if you oppose the IFB church its because you dont believe what their teaching not because there bitter. The Bible terms pastor, elder, and bishop refer to different responsibilities for the same office. No government should interfere with the local church's preaching, activities, and ministry. Using guitars in church is too liberal That was not the case at the church I grew up in when the last pastor I had when he came to Mountain Church of Christ when he first arrived (which is instrumental though membership is small). My church members are filled with sin and give account to God alone. Because of your traditions you have destroyed the authority of Gods word. No, because I have said and thought some things I regret. N/A We got saved that day September 14, 2014. So spontaneous but like it was planned. Pastor Wilkerson was the one and ONLY pastor who allowed me to work passionately in what ever church ministry I chosen. If that doesnt raise red flags for you I dont know what will. Section 1: General This is a sovereign and democratic independent fundamental Baptist church under the Lordship of Jesus Christ. operating or proceeding inconspicuously but with grave effect. A Baptist church may choose to associate with other churches of like faith We believe that salvation is by grace plus nothing minus nothing. 7. The problem is assuming intent instead of asking. The bitterness argument has been answered many times. Christ suffered and IFB church members know how to laugh and have fun. Like I said, forgiveness doesnt mean anything other than forgiveness. What an extensive list. If your church sings Just As I Am at the end of every service We sing that song once in a while since its a good invitational song. We believe that God created the entire universe in six literal, twenty-four-hour days (Genesis 1:1-27). If you pray using KJV language (thee, though, ye, etc. Im not sure where your pastor got that from, but its not in the Bible. My writing tends to be somewhat heavy and serious so every once in a while I like to add some humor to lighten things up a bit. . The thing is, its so insidious, you dont really realize its happening until youre firmly entrenched. If your pastor is telling you otherwise hes a heretic. Not of works, lest any man should boast. Every proposition presented for action of the church must be introduced by motion of one member and seconded by another. Me preferring the Kjv bible and believing its the inspired word of God is not incorrect. You dont just GO WITH THE FLOW. Even the General Baptists and the Free Will Baptists denounce eternal security, thus the only two Baptist groups that believe in Free Will. His son a child murderer. WebHeartland Baptist Bible College is unique. I can not forgive sins! 1. Scofield Bible!!!! Jesus died for all, and if God is willing to forgive me because Jesus died for me than I will forgive another because Jesus died for them too. I dont believe they bought our loyalty, because we werent of any good investment. I hope that you left your church in good terms and that they knew how you felt and whoever was wrong to be revived and allow the precense of God to bring the individual to the norm in other words what christian ought to be not what men want to be. Ive addressed the scriptures about tithing in my article and explain it using proper exegesis and hermeneutics. And if a lost person were to stumble upon this page and read your list and how you respond to any differing opinions, would you be helping plant a seed? I dont have a boarden to preform any religious works. This group is for fellowship, sharing of resources, devotional thoughts, posting of sermons, news of interest, ministry ideas, missionary/church links, KJV verse photos, and general edification. I wonder sometimes if the pastor didnt hit one of your sins and instead of getting you under conviction, you just got angry. Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you: 8 These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. I want to respond to your #30. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. WHY do children that leave IFB churches hardly ever come back? 7 They love to receive respectful greetings as they walk in the marketplaces, and to be called Rabbi.. of Infighting, Anti-LGBTQ Church Network Im pretty sure it WAS/IS alcohol because the bible talks alot about not getting drunk with wine.also take a little wine, etc. BUT, there is good news! [13] Robertson had previously attracted media attention after he stated that gay people should be shot and New Zealand prime minister Jacinda Ardern should "go home and get in the kitchen". 2Co 5:15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again. If you refuse to eat at a restaurant because they serve alcoholic beverages, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 27. Should I choose not to forgive after Christ has already died for him? We believe that the Holy Spirit is the Person who reproves the world of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment; and that He is the Supernatural Agent in regeneration, indwelling all believers and sealing them unto the day of redemption (John 16:8-11; II Corinthians 3:6; Romans 8:9; Ephesians 1:13-14). If you think that the KJV is inspired, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 2. 21 And when you swear by the Temple, you are swearing by it and by God, who lives in it. We teach that baptism is necessary for salvation as I get this quote from the King James Version from John 3:5; Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. are the result of sin and poor choices, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 46. Its our personal decisions that cause us to who to hell though most of their practices are not biblical, especially the devotions to the Virgin Mary as they especially have her as the intercessor. We believe in salvation by grace Pastor and his wife paid for reception, photographers, and and shower. How about shortchanging the Lord out of 20 minutes of Sunday service time worship for game show gimmickry hype to boost attendance? I love psychology and I love my bible I use them together with Discernment from the Holy Spirit. Just please be sure that your judging is fair. Hypocrites! Is to help you find a bible believing church, an Independent Fundamental Baptist Church, that seeks to serve and honor the Lord Jesus Christ. If you think that you can be a better Christian or have more favor with God with good performance, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 54. If I chose to forgive him there would be hope for our relationship. You can read some of the experiences here: https://baptistdeception.com/testimonials/. 44. If you compromise too much with the world, satan gets in and anything can happen thats why the word says to stay vigilant. Independent Baptists (a.k.a. It is awful that they put the rules and instructions of their mythology ahead of their love for First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friends eye. 26 You blind Pharisee! Thanks for reading! If this method were a stock, who would invest in it with such a low return. We believe the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments to be the Bible, as it is in truth, the Word of God (I Thessalonians 2:13). Be careful that a fanatical or unbiblical few do not cause you to condemn us all as a group. Matthew 6:14-15 is a warning not a command. WebThe 1920 Baptist Fundamentals declared, The fundamental principle of the Baptists, in common with many other evangelicals, has always been the gospel, which is the essence Most people find it hard to swallow that anyone really thinks that way at all. What is the Southern Baptist Convention and what do Southern Baptists believe? I talk to her about my faith she talks to me about her faith. Seeing 2 brothers in Christ debase a conversation (be it one or both parties) to snide remarks, tasteless jabs, and condescension as a form or response, makes us all look bad. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ accomplished our redemption through His finished work on the cross as a representative, vicarious, substitutionary sacrifice; and that our justification is made sure by His literal, physical resurrection from the dead (Romans 3:24-25; I Peter 2:24; Ephesians 1:7; I Peter 1:3-5). Get over it and work to rebuild the relationships instead of tearing down. 7. 4,2, and 7 month old. Maybe you had a bad experience or many years of bad experiences at an IFB church, but that will never excuse you from bad mouthing any of Gods people or the many IFB churches the Lord uses to spread His word or send missionaries to the remotest parts of the world to seek those who are lost. They knew it would be an investment in your giving and service to them (yes they are that evil). While I dont have a general opinion on this, I do believe that we should discipline our kids in the same sense that God disciplines us. The word fundamental simply means that we adhere to the fundamentals (basics) of the true Christian faith. Baptist Churches Since 1975 Are From the Ministry of a Man of Whom it Has Been Said: You are probably the most childish acting preacher Jonathan I have a question for you..IF the wine is grape juice (as in the water Jesus turned to wine)HOW can you get drunk on it???? I was in an IFB church for eight years and left because the weight of never feeling that I would be good enough for this church had worn me down. Welpjust commented for the sake of the few who posted comments and clearly are rowing the same boat as I! I respond to IFB jabs, sometimes that requires a jab back. Id rather do the hard work than be a robot though. Pastor preaches against smoking because it is bad for the body My preacher never preaches that though there are very few people at my current church that smoke. [14], Tarrant County, Texas preacher Dillon Awes attracted considerable controversy for advocating that "every single homosexual" in America be lined up against a wall and shot in the back of the head. For you build tombs for the prophets your ancestors killed, and you decorate the monuments of the godly people your ancestors destroyed. If you run into a church member at the grocery store and see that they have a bottle of wine or maybe a 6-pack of beer in their cart and you struggle over whether you should share this information with your pastor, you might be and independent fundamental Baptist! Thanks. Baptists believe the Bible and strive to live according to its teaching. It seems most on here have a issue with IFB churches. The New IFB's website lists its core doctrines as salvation by faith alone, once saved always saved, King James Bible-only, the Trinity, soul-winning, "hard" preaching, prewrath post-tribulation rapture, and opposition of worldliness, Calvinism, dispensationalism, liberalism, and Zionism.